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trayvon was a bad individual or anything like that. but the media painted him in a certain light by continually using a picture of when he was 12 years old and using george zimmerman's booking photo from an altercation in another case and showing a totally diverse view of the two individuals. that had to be intentional. you can't tell me the media didn't have any other access to other pictures pictures and trayvon's family didn't have pictures of him since he was 12 years old? there were pictures from his twitter that were circulated, but we saw the same image painted. the media benefits from ratings. we see it over and over again where the stories are slanted a certain way because it is explosive and the ratings shoot through the roof. there are networks that make a living off high-profile cases like this. as long as they report it fairly that is great. the public should know both sides and should know a fairview of it. it is when it is given a particular slant like this they don't do us a favor. there is an image of racism when anybo
trayvon was a bad individual or anything like that. but the media painted him in a certain light by continually using a picture of when he was 12 years old and using george zimmerman's booking photo from an altercation in another case and showing a totally diverse view of the two individuals. that had to be intentional. you can't tell me the media didn't have any other access to other pictures pictures and trayvon's family didn't have pictures of him since he was 12 years old? there were...
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i will love you forever, trayvon. in the name of jesus." zimmerman's lawyers in this case was never about race, but about a man defending himself during a violent attack in which he feared for his life. >> obviously we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything, except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad that the jury saw it that way. >> up until last night, zimmerman, although out on bond, had a 10:00 p.m. curfew, but after the not guilty verdict was announced at approximately 10:00 p.m. last night he was free to go home with his family. his lawyer said security is a concern, and although he didn't indicate what his client's immediate plans were, he suggested zimmerman would likely take time off with his family, relax and work on getting their lives back to normal. as for the six jurors in this trial, a court order remains in effect protecting their identities. a judge will later decide how long they'll remain anonymous. in the meantime jurors have not responded to requests from multiple media org
i will love you forever, trayvon. in the name of jesus." zimmerman's lawyers in this case was never about race, but about a man defending himself during a violent attack in which he feared for his life. >> obviously we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything, except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad that the jury saw it that way. >> up until last night, zimmerman, although out on bond, had a 10:00 p.m. curfew, but after the not...
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that would be the parents of trayvon martin. martin's parents were not inside the courtroom last night at the 10:00 hour but attorney said after contacting them by phone, the verdict, her reaction was one word -- wow! consumer rights leaders are urging the parents of trayvon martin as well as the department of justice to pursue civil rights violations against george zimmerman but last year the f.b.i. sent a handful of investigators to try to see if it was justified. at the time their determination it was not. for zimmerman, no more ankle bracelets, no more 10:00 curfew. he has big challenges ahead of them. they don't have any money. they spent almost everything they had on their defense. they have been living in hiding for a year. big question for george zimmerman where they will go from here. who will hire him. its whole new world for george zimmerman after 16 months of living and hiding. found not guilty last night by all female jury. >> gregg: phil, thanks very much. >> still alluding to it. he has had to live under intense s
that would be the parents of trayvon martin. martin's parents were not inside the courtroom last night at the 10:00 hour but attorney said after contacting them by phone, the verdict, her reaction was one word -- wow! consumer rights leaders are urging the parents of trayvon martin as well as the department of justice to pursue civil rights violations against george zimmerman but last year the f.b.i. sent a handful of investigators to try to see if it was justified. at the time their...
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did it make trayvon paranoid enough to take a poke at george zimmerman. not that he was aggressive, just that he was not in his right state of mind. >> the broward county sheriff's office is prepare iing a zimmer verdict riot plan. that was laid out today. that is in your hometown. is this being discussed a lot in the area? >> we have been discussing this for months now. and we actually had peacemakers, someone from the department of justice here since this all started, getting the pastors together, getting people in the community together and trying to improve race relations, so that we will not have riots. and the mayor here says that it should be peaceful. of course, that's what we all hope. >> mark fuhrman, how on guard must they be. >> well, i suppose that they're going to prepare as they would for anything that's gone sideways like this, i think it's pathetic that a court of law cannot be in a vacuum of the legal system without the influence of the public threatening to do great bodily harm to people and property. it's really a prophetic statement n
did it make trayvon paranoid enough to take a poke at george zimmerman. not that he was aggressive, just that he was not in his right state of mind. >> the broward county sheriff's office is prepare iing a zimmer verdict riot plan. that was laid out today. that is in your hometown. is this being discussed a lot in the area? >> we have been discussing this for months now. and we actually had peacemakers, someone from the department of justice here since this all started, getting the...
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and the mother identified trayvon's voice. the defense will bripg out that that father didn't think so. >> is that what the case is hinging on? >> no. if machine concludes the voice, but the problem is no one can do. that at the jury will not give all that much weight on the parade of witnesses who say what it is. no one heard him before. >> the prosecution had to prove that there was a malice or ill will on the part of joefrj zimmerman if they want to convict him of second-degree murder. you don't think they did that? >> no. it doesn't matter. it matters if the six people on the jury think they did. i don't think the utterances and so far removed from the shooting anyway and under their breath would stout hate and second-degree murder. it doesn't mean the jury will not convict. >> to be convicted for manslaughter does the prosecution prove that george zimmerman knew that the bullet would cause grave harm or death. >> for manslawsuiter you don't have to intend to kill. it is by act. norred has a couple of versions. in this cas
and the mother identified trayvon's voice. the defense will bripg out that that father didn't think so. >> is that what the case is hinging on? >> no. if machine concludes the voice, but the problem is no one can do. that at the jury will not give all that much weight on the parade of witnesses who say what it is. no one heard him before. >> the prosecution had to prove that there was a malice or ill will on the part of joefrj zimmerman if they want to convict him of...
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that's the verdict from the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case. zimmerman showed little reaction in court after hearing the court. the cleanup begins in france after a train derailed friday killing six people. investigators have ruled out human error. they're now looking at a detached piece of metal on the tracks. >>> the freak is back. san francisco giants pitcher tim lincecum threw out his first career no-hitter last night against the san diego padres. he threw a career high 148 pitches last night. giants beat the padres 9-0. >>> controversy is brewing in tucson, arizona, where two schools will take grant money from a group with ties to the muslim brotherhood. joining us now for fair and balanced debate are leslie marshall and chris plant. welcome to you both. >> hey, shannon. >> good morning. >> shannon: chris, this money will be used in classrooms where they're teaching arabic. isn't that a skill we'd like american kids to develop. what's wrong with that? >> sure, i'm sure we're taking money from the chinese government where they're teaching c
that's the verdict from the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case. zimmerman showed little reaction in court after hearing the court. the cleanup begins in france after a train derailed friday killing six people. investigators have ruled out human error. they're now looking at a detached piece of metal on the tracks. >>> the freak is back. san francisco giants pitcher tim lincecum threw out his first career no-hitter last night against the san diego padres. he threw a career high 148...
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today the defense for george zimmerman called trayvon martin's father to the stand. is there a sense there that that might have been a potential misfire? >> shep, potentially, i mean, that was a dramatic and risky move to put the father of the victim on the stand to testify to the benefit of the man who admits shooting and killing his son. perhaps the defense did not clearly anticipate how tracy martin would clarify what he said when first listening to those screams now saying that he never fully ruled it out that it was trayvon. the defense did get the two detectives to testify today that tracy martin did tell them originally it was not his son. two other witnesses today also came with some problems. the osu ermans testified that the screams were absolutely george zimmerman. but since they co-wrote the book defending our friend, the most hated man in america, that allowed prosecutor bernie to really question them and question whether or not their testimony was biased since they may have a financial interest in the outcome of this case as all of the profits of those
today the defense for george zimmerman called trayvon martin's father to the stand. is there a sense there that that might have been a potential misfire? >> shep, potentially, i mean, that was a dramatic and risky move to put the father of the victim on the stand to testify to the benefit of the man who admits shooting and killing his son. perhaps the defense did not clearly anticipate how tracy martin would clarify what he said when first listening to those screams now saying that he...
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judge nelson yet to rule on whether the defense can present this animation depicting trayvon martin's final moments in life for the jury to see. the technology is similar to the kind that makes the blue people human like in "avatar." the state says it's totally inaccurate. >> bill keating live in sanford, florida. >>> just how many americans are getting help putting food on the table. the numbers will amaze you. later on "the grapevine." and our new fox media analyst on how the media is covering egypt and the george zimmerman trial. out there owning it. the ones getting involved and staying engaged. they're not afraid to question the path they're on. because the one question they never want to ask is "how did i end up here?" i started schwab for those people. people who want to take ownership of their investments, like they do in every other aspect of their lives. you know it even after all these years. but your erectile dysfunction - you know,that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident
judge nelson yet to rule on whether the defense can present this animation depicting trayvon martin's final moments in life for the jury to see. the technology is similar to the kind that makes the blue people human like in "avatar." the state says it's totally inaccurate. >> bill keating live in sanford, florida. >>> just how many americans are getting help putting food on the table. the numbers will amaze you. later on "the grapevine." and our new fox media...
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is it stm * or trayvon martin. this is a fry hearing on whether the judge should allow a computer animation. [ female announcer ] nature valley protein bars, with simple, real ingredients, like roasted peanuts, creamy peanut butter, and a rich dark-chocolate flavor, plus 10 grams of protein, so it's energy straight from nature to you. nature valley protein bars. so it's energy straight from nature to you. she loves to shop online with her debit card. and so does bill, an identity thief who stole mary's identity, took over her bank accounts, and stole her hard-earned money. unfortunately, millions of americans just like you learn all it may take is a little misplaced information to wreak havoc on your life. this is identity theft. and no one helps stop itetter than lifelock. lifelock has the most comprehensive identity theft protection available. if marhad lifelock's bank account alerts, she may have been notified in time to help op it. lifelock's member notification service is on the job 24/7. when you receive a te
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liberals are supposed to back trayvon martin. i think it's become like for them you know o.j. simpson rodney king redo. and the second part of your question already you see that in sanford, florida religious leaders, civic leaders are now having to go out and hold meetings with the community trying it say don't have a riot if somehow, you know, zimmerman is acquitted of this crime. >> bill: what do you think mary katharine? do you think bad things are going to happen if zimmerman is acquitted. >> i pray that they don't. i am glad there is civic leaders involved and on this issue. i do think that when you have the entire media really jump to make this a racial more rattle play from the very beginning. >> bill: how is the media doing that? juan cited a couple of bogus things that came out of nbc news doctored tapes that made zimmerman look like a racist in the very beginning of the case. >> right. >> bill: we exposed this here. how does the media continue to make this all about race and not justice? >> i think from the very beginning, when they referred to it as a very simple fr
liberals are supposed to back trayvon martin. i think it's become like for them you know o.j. simpson rodney king redo. and the second part of your question already you see that in sanford, florida religious leaders, civic leaders are now having to go out and hold meetings with the community trying it say don't have a riot if somehow, you know, zimmerman is acquitted of this crime. >> bill: what do you think mary katharine? do you think bad things are going to happen if zimmerman is...
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to convince jurors that zimmerman killed trayvon martin in self-defense. we've already heard from some of zimmerman's family but we still don't know whether george zimmerman himself will take the stand. joining me now, jennifer bonjean a criminal defense attorney. dr. michael baden a forensic pathologist and fox news contributor, and susan constantine, a jury consultant. welcome to each of you. jennifer, to you first, just having, you know, kept your nose into this case, and having heard what the prosecution presented, do they have enough to get a second-degree murder conviction in your view? >> i think that they may fall a little short. i think that there's enough contradictory evidence that the defense can do wonders with that in closing argument. at the same time, i do think that in self-defense cases it is really important for the defendant to take the stand and to explain his state of mind because otherwise, the parties are simply arguing inferences from the evidence and, it may not be enough to convince this jury where that he didn't act intentionall
to convince jurors that zimmerman killed trayvon martin in self-defense. we've already heard from some of zimmerman's family but we still don't know whether george zimmerman himself will take the stand. joining me now, jennifer bonjean a criminal defense attorney. dr. michael baden a forensic pathologist and fox news contributor, and susan constantine, a jury consultant. welcome to each of you. jennifer, to you first, just having, you know, kept your nose into this case, and having heard what...
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the judge rules whether the jury will see the animation of the fatal altercation as well as trayvon martin's text messages. >> thank you very much. appreciate it, anna. >> for the first time survivors of the boston bombing will come face to face with the man charged with vicious acts of terror. dzhokhar tsarnaev will make his first appearance in front of the judge. he has several counts ranging murder to mass destruction. >> i want to know why. it doesn't make snins to me whatsoever. he hurt innocent people. i don't know how he can live in our country and just feel that way. >> tsarnaev is accused of killing three and wounding more than 200 others. 17 of the charges carry a penalty of life in prison or the death penalty. the courthouse is expected to be packed of course for the 19-year-old's appearance. >>> more incredible stories of survival. two flight attendants were sucked out of the back of the plane as it skidded to a stop. they were then found alive on the runway amid the plane's debris. also we are learning not only was it the flying pilot's first time landing that plane at sfo. the
the judge rules whether the jury will see the animation of the fatal altercation as well as trayvon martin's text messages. >> thank you very much. appreciate it, anna. >> for the first time survivors of the boston bombing will come face to face with the man charged with vicious acts of terror. dzhokhar tsarnaev will make his first appearance in front of the judge. he has several counts ranging murder to mass destruction. >> i want to know why. it doesn't make snins to me...
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>> trayvon benjamin martin. >> georgy. >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> if this person, this mannequin, were carrying a firearm on their waist, where would the gun be right now in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> were the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent with someone doing this? on cement. >> i don't think so. >> why does this defendant get out of the car if he thinks that trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? because he's got a gun! equalizer. he's going to take care of it. he's a want to be cop. >> the person that decided that this is going to continue, said it was going to be violent was the guy that didn't go home when he had the chance to. i almost wish that the verdict had guilty, not guilty and completely innocent because i would ask you to check for that one. you have to check the not guilty. check the innocent then, too. >> trayvon martin may not have the defe
>> trayvon benjamin martin. >> georgy. >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> if this person, this mannequin, were carrying a firearm on their waist, where would the gun be right now in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> were the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent...
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michael, you are a part of trayvon martin foundation. you have your trayvon martin shirt on. you know the family very well. talk about how they will get to the structures. what are the practical things that foundation, the family, the parents want to do and want the people who care about them to do. >> sure. i think if we look at the past 24 hours and pain and sadness that so many of us feel and so much anger that many of us feel as well. we look at the past 17 months. for the past 17 months we mobilized millions of people around this country to stand up against the laws and say no more. for the first time in eight years, in 2012, not one new law of stand your ground type of law was passed in any state in this nation. that is because the great leadership of is a bresabrina a. if i could just touch on the humanity of trayvon martin and the legacy they want it to leave for their son. before, black men and women were killed and we didn't know their names. now trayvon martin's name is on t-shirts, billboards, twitter feeds. jordan davis was killed. we know his killed. then hadea
michael, you are a part of trayvon martin foundation. you have your trayvon martin shirt on. you know the family very well. talk about how they will get to the structures. what are the practical things that foundation, the family, the parents want to do and want the people who care about them to do. >> sure. i think if we look at the past 24 hours and pain and sadness that so many of us feel and so much anger that many of us feel as well. we look at the past 17 months. for the past 17...
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trayvon martin. you have to use evidence, circumstantial evidence from the outside and try to figure it out. if someone's in fear, you run home. that was about 30 yards. that's where you run when you're in fear. if you stick around to take on someone, you stick around. >> that's more an assumption. i don't think he had -- >> well -- you think -- you disagree with that? >> that doesn't mean that trayvon had to run home. >> i'm not saying that but if you're looking for reasonable inferences, that's a for likely reasonable inference. >> it's four minutes but he didn't go home. i mean, the inference is what he was doing. the thing is the state, all they have is the angel/demon good versus evil, light/dark dichotomy and i think the defense is doing a great job of saying you don't know anything about either of these people. i'm just saying there's four minutes that he could have been laying in wait the same way you think that he was hunting. there's no evidence of evilness on either side and some point onl
trayvon martin. you have to use evidence, circumstantial evidence from the outside and try to figure it out. if someone's in fear, you run home. that was about 30 yards. that's where you run when you're in fear. if you stick around to take on someone, you stick around. >> that's more an assumption. i don't think he had -- >> well -- you think -- you disagree with that? >> that doesn't mean that trayvon had to run home. >> i'm not saying that but if you're looking for...
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one, trayvon martin is dead. two, george zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of trayvon martin. goenlgz cannot be guilty of manslaughter or committing a merely negligent act or if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide. >> technically could be a debate going on between manslaughter and second degree, could be a debate between manslaughter and acquittal. >> in the circuit court of the 18th judicial circuit in and for seminole county, florida, state of florida versus george zimmerman. verdict, we, the jury, find george zimmerman not guilty. >> completely shocked. utter shock. i cannot believe he was not found guilty. >> obviously we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad the jury saw it that way. >> i am gratified by the jury's verdict as happy as i am for george zimmerman. i'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty. for that we are eternally grat
one, trayvon martin is dead. two, george zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of trayvon martin. goenlgz cannot be guilty of manslaughter or committing a merely negligent act or if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide. >> technically could be a debate going on between manslaughter and second degree, could be a debate between manslaughter and acquittal. >> in the circuit court of the 18th judicial circuit in and for seminole...
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to everybody says i am trayvon. his family expresses their heartfelt gratitude for helping them these past 17 months. to tracee and sybrina, trayvon's parents, it has made sanford and many other cities a little safer for all our children. i know trayvon is up there proud of the changes that you as his parents have inspired in his name. this morning, martin luther king's daughter tweeted me a message. it read today is a demoment for the status of my father's dream. whatever the zimmerman verdict is, she tweeted, in the words of my father, we must conduct ourselves on the higher plain of dignity and discipline trayvon martin will forever remain in the annals of history as symbols for the fight for equal justice for all tracy and sybrina are thankful for all the prayers over the past 17 months since the death of their son. this is a very trying time for their family and we ask that you respect their privacy. in conclusion, for trayvon to rest in peace, we must all be peaceful. thank you. >> just a couple questions. >>
to everybody says i am trayvon. his family expresses their heartfelt gratitude for helping them these past 17 months. to tracee and sybrina, trayvon's parents, it has made sanford and many other cities a little safer for all our children. i know trayvon is up there proud of the changes that you as his parents have inspired in his name. this morning, martin luther king's daughter tweeted me a message. it read today is a demoment for the status of my father's dream. whatever the zimmerman verdict...
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we all sadly know the fate of trayvon martin. thank you for your perspective and appreciate your coming in and sharing this with us. >> thank you. >>> we are keeping a close eye on the george zimmerman trial where a verdict could come down at any moment now. we will have that for when you it happens. plus, coming up, we will take a look at other high-profile murder cases that have happened. >> including the o.j. simpson case and casey anthony's and how those juries came to their decisions. also a closer look at the women tasked with the sighting of zimmerman's fate and why both sides agreed to put them on the jury. >> the state told you that he had no decisions? they dared to tell you that trayvon martin had no decisions? my client planned this? really? [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where giving up isn't who you are. ♪ this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is
we all sadly know the fate of trayvon martin. thank you for your perspective and appreciate your coming in and sharing this with us. >> thank you. >>> we are keeping a close eye on the george zimmerman trial where a verdict could come down at any moment now. we will have that for when you it happens. plus, coming up, we will take a look at other high-profile murder cases that have happened. >> including the o.j. simpson case and casey anthony's and how those juries came to...
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trayvon martin. and then rev repped sharpton who organized protest and calling for the arrest of george zimmerman,ine city lead ares in sanford but theed heads over whether zimmerman should be arrested or not. >> you look at initial media coverage in the early days, it was a much younger picture of trayvon martin that wassoused by several people instead of a current picture that you so on the right hand side of the screen. and despite the contrary, early reporting said that george zimmerman had no noticeable injures and remember, the pictures shed a different story. and then the sound byte by n pc news. >> this guy locks up to no good and he locks black. >> and that was a misedit and now look at what was said. >> this guy locks up to be no good. he's like on drugs and it is raining and he's just walking around, looking about. >> okay, and this guy is white black or hispanic? >>o locks black. >> jobs were lost with that edited coverage. remember when zimmerman told police he was following trayvon mart
trayvon martin. and then rev repped sharpton who organized protest and calling for the arrest of george zimmerman,ine city lead ares in sanford but theed heads over whether zimmerman should be arrested or not. >> you look at initial media coverage in the early days, it was a much younger picture of trayvon martin that wassoused by several people instead of a current picture that you so on the right hand side of the screen. and despite the contrary, early reporting said that george...
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trayvon martin a total stranger to him. and george zimmerman had already formed negative impressions of him. you mean to tell me that he grew fonder of trayvon martin during the fight? of course not. and even five months later when he's talking to hannity with his attorney sitting right next to him, he says the killing was god's plan and that he had no regrets. of course there is ill will here. now, only question really for the jury is was it self-defense. and i think the defense will hit hard on the testimony of john good, a disinterested neighbor who says that at the end just before the shot was fired, zimmerman was down on his back, trayvon martin was on top. pounding and grounding him, mma style. that's the testimony. i think the defense will ask the jurors zimmerman had a legal gun. was that not right for him to use it. didn't he have the right to use it in that moment to save his life. wasn't that a reasonable thing for him to do. and for the defense, zimmerman cooperated with the police from the beginning. he answere
trayvon martin a total stranger to him. and george zimmerman had already formed negative impressions of him. you mean to tell me that he grew fonder of trayvon martin during the fight? of course not. and even five months later when he's talking to hannity with his attorney sitting right next to him, he says the killing was god's plan and that he had no regrets. of course there is ill will here. now, only question really for the jury is was it self-defense. and i think the defense will hit hard...
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that is the way to honor trayvon martin. the words of president obama. they begin our team coverage tonight. we go now to marcy gonzalez. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> with those words, george zimmerman left a courthouse a free man. the nearly month-long trial over, his attorney saying he will soon get act a central piece of evidence, the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. across the country, last night verdict sponsor -- spawned protests and prayers. in this church that martin poss family used to attend, his cousins shared their disappointment in the outcome. >> they are concerned and hurt. [inaudible] ,> while his terence moran because of death threats, zimmerman remains in hiding for fear of his safety. he pleaded not guilty to second degree murder, always saying he killed martin in self-defense. legal experts say based on the case laid out by the state, the jury's decision to acquit was no surprise. >> talking about just that moment he shoots and the amount of evidence there was that george zimmerman had been beaten by trayvon
that is the way to honor trayvon martin. the words of president obama. they begin our team coverage tonight. we go now to marcy gonzalez. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> with those words, george zimmerman left a courthouse a free man. the nearly month-long trial over, his attorney saying he will soon get act a central piece of evidence, the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. across the country, last night verdict sponsor -- spawned protests and prayers. in this...
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how many hours did trayvon martin need? smothering the mouth and the nose and grabbing for the gun at the same time? le -- the phone call, 44 feet from where it started in man. somebody there is the flash. when he claims trayvon martin -- -- hit his heat 25 times how much is the defendant alive? or is he exaggerating to justify what he had to do. the wristwatch he described. how did he learn that technique? perhaps mixed martial arts, he went throw days or week 0 two days a week, three hours, but didn't get much training. think about the time frame here. the evidence i agrees in terms of the physical evidence and the testimony. the president at rto, talked about the procedures they're supposed to follow in terms of neighborhood watch. you recall about don't follow people. call the police. second degree murder. state has to prove threw elements. the victim unfortunately is dead. the death was caused by the criminal act of this defendant and there was unlawful killing of trayvon martin by the act and this demonstrated a -- ac
how many hours did trayvon martin need? smothering the mouth and the nose and grabbing for the gun at the same time? le -- the phone call, 44 feet from where it started in man. somebody there is the flash. when he claims trayvon martin -- -- hit his heat 25 times how much is the defendant alive? or is he exaggerating to justify what he had to do. the wristwatch he described. how did he learn that technique? perhaps mixed martial arts, he went throw days or week 0 two days a week, three hours,...
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it happened last night. >> trayvon martin justice for trayvon martin, justice for trayvon martin. >> people shouted justice for trayvon martin while marching through the streets. thing reese mained mostly peaceful except for one protest in oakland, california where public transit police car was smashed. in washington demonstrates tors marched late into the night. and in chicago, protesters carried a giant sign saying we are trayvon. they also chanted not one who are. in florida, they sang quietly on the steps of the capitol building in tallahassee. and many leaders called for calm after the zimmerman verdict last night. and you can imagine it was a hot topic in many pulpits this sunday. john zarrella intended a service where trayvon martin's mother attends. what's the word there there, john? >> don, this is the church where sybrina fulton attends. they were not here, although there was thought perhaps they might come. sybrina left a message to the pastor and her message was very simple, she said please tell the congregation here that i still trust in god. and the pastor was telling u
it happened last night. >> trayvon martin justice for trayvon martin, justice for trayvon martin. >> people shouted justice for trayvon martin while marching through the streets. thing reese mained mostly peaceful except for one protest in oakland, california where public transit police car was smashed. in washington demonstrates tors marched late into the night. and in chicago, protesters carried a giant sign saying we are trayvon. they also chanted not one who are. in florida,...
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you know, you -- we've heard from trayvon's mother, trayvon's father, trayvon's brother. they all have a connection to him, to trayvon martin, but other people who did 911 calls, who said they thought it was the guy on top, meaning the one screaming for help was the one on bottom was george zimmerman, but you also had some people who testified saying that the person they heard screaming sounded like a child, sounded like a young boy. >> okay, well, we're joined live now from sanford, craig melvin is there. and craig, can you tell us exactly what's going on inside the courtroom right now at this moment? >> reporter: right now, martin, judge nelson is considering hearing on john donnelly. he's the guy who's married to lee ann benjamin. they both testified to the fact that they gave money to the website to help george zimmerman pay for his legal bills. he testified that it helped him, took food over to the house. they also testified that because of his experience in vietnam, he was able to better decipher screaming. he said that he could recognize that it was george zimmerma
you know, you -- we've heard from trayvon's mother, trayvon's father, trayvon's brother. they all have a connection to him, to trayvon martin, but other people who did 911 calls, who said they thought it was the guy on top, meaning the one screaming for help was the one on bottom was george zimmerman, but you also had some people who testified saying that the person they heard screaming sounded like a child, sounded like a young boy. >> okay, well, we're joined live now from sanford,...
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that's the way to honor trayvon martin. so despite the not guilty verdict, the nas's oldest civil rights association wants to keep the fight going against george zimmerman. ben jealous, head of the naacp is calling on the justice department to launch a civil rights investigation and they got a response that brought down the website briefly. this morning, on cnn's "state of the union," ben jealous spoke of patience. >> it's important. just as we all put our faith in this justice system here in florida and in the jury, that we let the justice system run its course and the reality is in these type of cases with serious questions, we know there will be a state phase. there will be a civil phase. almost assuredly and then there will be a federal civil rights phase and we are putting our faith in that system. >> the department of justice says it is still looking at the evidence in this case. >> so let's head to washington now and check in with renee marsh. president obama is urging very measured words today using i should say ver
that's the way to honor trayvon martin. so despite the not guilty verdict, the nas's oldest civil rights association wants to keep the fight going against george zimmerman. ben jealous, head of the naacp is calling on the justice department to launch a civil rights investigation and they got a response that brought down the website briefly. this morning, on cnn's "state of the union," ben jealous spoke of patience. >> it's important. just as we all put our faith in this justice...
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an unknown trayvons. >> benjamin crump, attorney for trayvon martin's family. thanks so much for reminding us grief may be reasonable but despair is unacceptable when this family refuses to be in despair. thank you. >> up next a closer look at this case and the role of race in this case. i'm going to bring my panel in. what if george zimmerman was an african-american man. that was his attorney actually asked that question last night. oh man. gotta think fast, herbie. back pedal, back pedal. [ crowd cheering ] oh, he's down in flames and now the ice-cold shoulder. one last play... no, game over! gps take him to the dog house. [ male announcer ] make a powerful first impression. the all-new nissan sentra. ♪ the all-new nissan sentra. resoft would be great, but we really just need "kid-proof." softsprings got both, let me show you. right over here. here, feel this. wow, that's nice. wow. the soft carpets have never been this durable. you know i think we'll take it. get kid-friendly toughness and feet-friendly softness, without walking all over your budget. he di
an unknown trayvons. >> benjamin crump, attorney for trayvon martin's family. thanks so much for reminding us grief may be reasonable but despair is unacceptable when this family refuses to be in despair. thank you. >> up next a closer look at this case and the role of race in this case. i'm going to bring my panel in. what if george zimmerman was an african-american man. that was his attorney actually asked that question last night. oh man. gotta think fast, herbie. back pedal,...
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the prosecution says he was profiling trayvon martin. the defense says, no, i was just calling in about a guy who looks suspicious. if indeed there are trace amounts of thc in trayvon martin's system and that comes into evidence that is an argument for the defense that you know what? he looked like he was on drugs and maybe the thc had some effect. that is what dr. bao, the medical examiner, now says it might have some effect. for the prosecution marijuana is a downer and it mellows people out and it's a depressant. trayvon martin was less likely to have thrown the first punch and to have been on top of george zimmerman pounding and grounding as the defense argues. i think it gives each of them something to work with. >> we heard yesterday interestingly enough, from somebody who was teaching george zimmerman some sort of self-defense and said he was kind of a softy so that all plays into it. i want to ask you about the other side of this which is that george zimmerman and his prescription drug use, will that be entered into evidence in t
the prosecution says he was profiling trayvon martin. the defense says, no, i was just calling in about a guy who looks suspicious. if indeed there are trace amounts of thc in trayvon martin's system and that comes into evidence that is an argument for the defense that you know what? he looked like he was on drugs and maybe the thc had some effect. that is what dr. bao, the medical examiner, now says it might have some effect. for the prosecution marijuana is a downer and it mellows people out...
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the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy. not just for his family, or for any one community, but for america. i know this case has elicited strong passions. and in the wake of the verdict, i know those passions may be running even higher, but we are a nation of laws, and the jury has spoken. i now ask america to recognize calm reflection on two parents who lost a son. we continue our live coverage from sanford, florida, what's next? zimmerman may not be done defending himself in court? now civil rights leaders are calling for new charges. >>> also ahead -- >> in my instance, because i am african-american. we never really get a fair trial. we don't feel like we get a fair trial. >> that was longtime sanford resident and business owner brenda hartsfield about 24 hours ago on our show. i'll check in with her and get her reaction to the verdict. we'll be right back. [ brent ] this guy's a pro, herbie. [ herbie ] there's no doubt about it brent, a real gate keeper. here's kevin, the new boyfriend. lamb to the slaughter. that's rig
the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy. not just for his family, or for any one community, but for america. i know this case has elicited strong passions. and in the wake of the verdict, i know those passions may be running even higher, but we are a nation of laws, and the jury has spoken. i now ask america to recognize calm reflection on two parents who lost a son. we continue our live coverage from sanford, florida, what's next? zimmerman may not be done defending himself in court? now...
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zimmerman said trayvon saw his gun. listen, it's highly impossible and improbable you can see that gun in that darkness back there. pitch black. >> greta: now let's do voo doo. how long is the jfr going to be out, jim? this is voodoo. >> it's i think the jury knows how important this case schl i think saturday. a rushed verdict would be bad for everybody. i'd say saturday or monday. >> we've got head shakers not disagreeing. >> or sunday, sunld, sorry. >> let you go. >> greta: coming up thank you, panel. coming up what will happen in the courtroom? a look ahead to tomorrow. a look ahead to tomorrow. ou when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover, and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i've been with bp for 24 years. i was part of the team that helped deliver on our commitments to the gulf - and i can tell you, safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge safety equipment and technology, like a new deepwater well cap and
zimmerman said trayvon saw his gun. listen, it's highly impossible and improbable you can see that gun in that darkness back there. pitch black. >> greta: now let's do voo doo. how long is the jfr going to be out, jim? this is voodoo. >> it's i think the jury knows how important this case schl i think saturday. a rushed verdict would be bad for everybody. i'd say saturday or monday. >> we've got head shakers not disagreeing. >> or sunday, sunld, sorry. >> let you...
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you didn't know anything about trayvon martin. you knew he played football in middle school, that was about it. what else did you know about him? height and weight and that he was physically healthy, that's what the autopsy report said. that's it. we don't know anything about his fighting ability. if he had any at all. if he would be a one on a scale of one to ten or a ten or in between. a lot of assumptions made about him, 17 years old, just turned 17. we don't know anything about it. the witness started to say that he knew some things from the media, you know, that's obviously a big red flag. he got cut off on that and no further discussion. >> we do know, i believe trayvon martin was 158 pounds at point at which he was killed, right? >> right, 5'11". >> conceding how much in weight to mr. zimmerman? >> i've heard different things about zimmerman's weight at the time. he's put on a -- i think about 100 pounds since then. but we've seen pictures of him. he was obviously fairly physically fit at the time. and the gym owner even sa
you didn't know anything about trayvon martin. you knew he played football in middle school, that was about it. what else did you know about him? height and weight and that he was physically healthy, that's what the autopsy report said. that's it. we don't know anything about his fighting ability. if he had any at all. if he would be a one on a scale of one to ten or a ten or in between. a lot of assumptions made about him, 17 years old, just turned 17. we don't know anything about it. the...
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the shooting of trayvon martin. let's bring in george stephanopoulos. he's the host of abc's "this week." what are you hearing from washington this morning? no comment from the white house itself. >> no, pretty muted reaction. from washington. no comment from the president or the white house. relatively little comment from the members of congress so far. no official statement from the justice department. i was able to speak with a justice departmentff that did emphasize that, as gio reported, an investigation is open, has been open in this case. but you have to know that the bar for a civil rights prosecution here is very, very high. it would be under the shepard act. named after matthew shepard. the hate crimes act. to have a successful prosecution there, you would have to show that this violence was motivated by race. you would have to also show, not negligence, not an accident, direct intentional violence motivated by race. it's a very high bar given the fact that george zimmerman's been acquitted not just of sec
the shooting of trayvon martin. let's bring in george stephanopoulos. he's the host of abc's "this week." what are you hearing from washington this morning? no comment from the white house itself. >> no, pretty muted reaction. from washington. no comment from the president or the white house. relatively little comment from the members of congress so far. no official statement from the justice department. i was able to speak with a justice departmentff that did emphasize that, as...
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the trayvon martin foundation went on to say that trayvon martin cannot rest in peace if there is not peace in the streets lets switch gears now and check in with janu for your good morning janu. with buster with the view from the golden gate bridge care and you can see it is eighth on a the staff this mornina are this is default oute this morniit is already foggy oe this morning >> 60s along the coastal areas appeared 7 is for the bay shore spirit >> the afternoon highs will be into the 90s in some parts appeared >> to the cheers this afternoon temperatures will cool off into the '60s and '70s. >> afternoon highs low 90s in antioch brentwood and livermore appeared >> mid '80s for danville. >> 91 degrees was caught us napping while for morgan hill. 91 degrees for morgan hill. >> 80 in fremont. >> partly cloudy conditions 64 in ocean beach pier >> 64 in half moon bay. >> plenty of sun shine for the north bay. >> the seven days we will continue to fill cooling in to the low 80s. >> '90s as we head into next week. >> back to you. >> new this morning. investigating the shooting death of a
the trayvon martin foundation went on to say that trayvon martin cannot rest in peace if there is not peace in the streets lets switch gears now and check in with janu for your good morning janu. with buster with the view from the golden gate bridge care and you can see it is eighth on a the staff this mornina are this is default oute this morniit is already foggy oe this morning >> 60s along the coastal areas appeared 7 is for the bay shore spirit >> the afternoon highs will be...
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you don't have trayvon martin here. so when something comes along which sort of might make sense and who the aggressor is so important here, because if george zimmerman was the aggressor, a vigilante going after him, then he had absolutely no right to a self-defense and to shoot him. if, on the other hand, trayvon martin was waiting for him and that he was the aggressor, that changes the whole dynamic. so that, to me, and i guess because i hadn't thought of it before. you know, it's the first time i looked at that four minutes as being significant. that may struck mile. the jury may think that is completely ridiculous and have a complete different view of it than i do. >> harris: greta van susteren i can't wait for "on the record" tonight from sanford, florida. a plug for you, thank you. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: for more than a year we have watched sharp forms of controversy form in this case and you remember the protesters wearing hooded sweat shirts taking across the nation after police decided not to arrest g
you don't have trayvon martin here. so when something comes along which sort of might make sense and who the aggressor is so important here, because if george zimmerman was the aggressor, a vigilante going after him, then he had absolutely no right to a self-defense and to shoot him. if, on the other hand, trayvon martin was waiting for him and that he was the aggressor, that changes the whole dynamic. so that, to me, and i guess because i hadn't thought of it before. you know, it's the first...
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his conduct is why trayvon martin is dead. i think the prosecution made that. >> you don't think that the prosecutions argued effectively with second-degree? >> i don't think they did. i think it is manslaughter. manslaughter is you do something and reckless and you don't mean to kill them but they die. i think it is manslaughter. i think the jury has to have common sense which the prosecutions is saying. if not for zimmerman, martin wont be dead. the by had a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea. he is a child many times and skittles and iced tea and none of that matters, only thing matters is what is in george zimmerman's head at the time he used the deadly force and if they couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not in fear and he was going to get hurt seriously, that's it, it is over. they didn't prove second-degree and they wont have charged if all of the sievele rights people didn't come out and manipulate the entire system. it should not have been charged and one question no one mentions. if everyone is d
his conduct is why trayvon martin is dead. i think the prosecution made that. >> you don't think that the prosecutions argued effectively with second-degree? >> i don't think they did. i think it is manslaughter. manslaughter is you do something and reckless and you don't mean to kill them but they die. i think it is manslaughter. i think the jury has to have common sense which the prosecutions is saying. if not for zimmerman, martin wont be dead. the by had a bag of skittles and a...
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the requesty to be answered, whether george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin in an act of self defense. the prosecution contents it was second-degree murder. we will get legal perspective, but ron mott is outside the courthouse where there have been late developments. what's happening now? >> reporter: good evening to you. this jury has been almost three weeks and deliberating for 13 hours and counting and they asked the court to clarify the instruction for manslaughter. >> your verdict finding george zimmerman either guilty or not guilty must be unanimous. >> after 56 witnesses, 12 days of testimony and an assortment of evidence to digest, a chunk of concrete. >> on the sidewalk. >> a dummy. >> george zimmerman and trayvon martin. >> six women continue to tlib rate and among them five managers. the options. guiltiy of second-degree murder, guilty of manslaughter or not guilty. it will hinge on how they resolve key issues. who cried out for help? >> trayvon berchl min martin. >> my son, george. >> the position of the hol ter. >> he is saying that arm pits, how does he get the g
the requesty to be answered, whether george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin in an act of self defense. the prosecution contents it was second-degree murder. we will get legal perspective, but ron mott is outside the courthouse where there have been late developments. what's happening now? >> reporter: good evening to you. this jury has been almost three weeks and deliberating for 13 hours and counting and they asked the court to clarify the instruction for manslaughter. >>...
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trayvon martin's relatives tried to heal going to church. pastors coast-to-coast urged peace and compassion. despite the not guilty verdict, the nation's oldest civil rights organization wants to keep the fight going against george zimmerman. the president of the naacp says he is calling on the justice department to launch a federal civil rights investigation. the justice department says the department continues to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal investigation as testimony from the state trial. light bring in cnn legal analyst and defense attorney mark dejeane and martin savidge. do you think the defense department will get involved? >> they are not going to touch it. the fbi has been down. they were down in the very beginning. they investigated the police departments and found nothing. we need to be careful for people getting people's hopes up that there is going to be something more from this. i don't see this fitting into any of the civil rights violations as far as, remember, it's still got to be beyond a reasonable do
trayvon martin's relatives tried to heal going to church. pastors coast-to-coast urged peace and compassion. despite the not guilty verdict, the nation's oldest civil rights organization wants to keep the fight going against george zimmerman. the president of the naacp says he is calling on the justice department to launch a federal civil rights investigation. the justice department says the department continues to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal investigation as testimony...
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in this florida church and in the neighborhood where trayvon martin lived, today a call for calm. >> the verdict is in and be peaceful about what it is. conduct yourself accordingly. >> reporter: president obama today echoed that sentiment. "the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy not just for his family or any one community but for america. i now ask every american to respect the calm for reflection for two parents who lost their young son." this was not the first time the president has remarked on the case. >> if i had a son he'd look like trayvon. >> reporter: the death of the unarmed teenager triggered a wave of protests last year. today similar scenes after last night's verdict. >> there are people who believe we live in a post-racial society. i get e-mails saying we have a black president, what more do you want? what more do you expect? and i think the case, frankly, provides an answer to those people that race is a factor in our society. >> reporter: civil rights leaders say they're planning a rally here in sanford later this week. meantime they say they want to not only mem
in this florida church and in the neighborhood where trayvon martin lived, today a call for calm. >> the verdict is in and be peaceful about what it is. conduct yourself accordingly. >> reporter: president obama today echoed that sentiment. "the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy not just for his family or any one community but for america. i now ask every american to respect the calm for reflection for two parents who lost their young son." this was not the first time...
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george zimmerman is found not guilty in the shooting death of trayvon martin. and only on cbs, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says iran is dangerously close to having a nuclear women son moving fast to develop intercontinental missile that could deliver it to the united states. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning again george zimmerman is a man. he was found not guilty last night in the death of 17-year- old trayvon martin. he stood stoically in the courtroom last nile as the court clerk read the verdict. >> state of florida versus george zimmerman. verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> schieffer: cbs news correspondent has been covering this case over the last year he is in florida this morning with the latest, mark? >> good morning, bob. not guilty in the end jury of six women, five of them mothers decided that george zimmerman killed trayvon martin in self defense. his face was impassive. he shook hands wit
george zimmerman is found not guilty in the shooting death of trayvon martin. and only on cbs, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says iran is dangerously close to having a nuclear women son moving fast to develop intercontinental missile that could deliver it to the united states. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning again george zimmerman...
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take a look. >> justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! >> those protesters are shouting "justice for trayvon." those who gathered did remain peaceful. no arrests were made, but "the miami herald" reported that at least one verbal fight broke out between protesters, a man and a woman arguing over the role of race in the trial. >> keep an eye that, but also, another stunning story happening overnight, the tragic death of actor cory monteith. the canadian native who became famous playing finn hudson on the hit tv show "glee" was found in a vancouver hotel room saturday. monteith's body was found by hotel staff yesterday after he missed his check-out time. nick valencia is in atlanta monitoring all of this. and it's truly a tragic story, nick. he's so young. what's the latest you're hearing? >> good morning, kate. sudden and tragic. the cause of death is not immediately known, but police have ruled out foul play. an autopsy is set for monday. just to remind our viewers, cory monteith skyrocketed to fame as part of the hit tv show "glee." he p
take a look. >> justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! >> those protesters are shouting "justice for trayvon." those who gathered did remain peaceful. no arrests were made, but "the miami herald" reported that at least one verbal fight broke out between protesters, a man and a woman arguing over the role of race in the trial. >> keep an eye that, but also, another stunning story happening overnight, the tragic death of actor cory...
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i will love you for trayvon. she even called upon people who were upset with the verdict, she called upon them to remain calm and nonviolent. how is the family doing today? >> well, i think that tweet describes her state of mind and the state of mind of the father. they want people to remain peaceful. we don't want trayvon martin's legacy to be even with a garbage can kicked off. people who may have an issue with our law and how we handle these type of situations should do things within our civic structure to change that. go become legislators, lawyers, judges, make the laws that much better. get into law enforcement, get into forensic pathology. there's so many things you can do to help our system be a little better next time it happens so maybe we won't have another trayvon. >> looking back, do you wish the state had charged zimmerman with manslaughter rather than second degree murder? >> let me say this, as a lawyer, i don't monday morning quarterback, i don't second-guess any lawyer. your decision is your dec
i will love you for trayvon. she even called upon people who were upset with the verdict, she called upon them to remain calm and nonviolent. how is the family doing today? >> well, i think that tweet describes her state of mind and the state of mind of the father. they want people to remain peaceful. we don't want trayvon martin's legacy to be even with a garbage can kicked off. people who may have an issue with our law and how we handle these type of situations should do things within...
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>> i would say no but after seeing him call trayvon martin's mother and asking him if trayvon martin was responsible for his own death and now calling tracy martin, i don't know what to expect. i think it's possible now. >> rather, it's zimmerman's decision, not o'mara's. >> i'm sure that o'mara will have a huge influence on george zimmerman but, martin, go ahead. >> that was the point i was going to make. we already know that george zimmerman wants to speak out. he went on fox television. i'm sure that mark o'mara was adamantly opposed to that interview. so george i think feels the sense that he wants to tell something. and my question would be what do you do if george zimmerman says i demand, i want to get on that stand and you're mark o'mara saying you can't do that. it is essentially george's decision to make. >> what do you do, jose, where the client insists on testifying and you think it's stupid for him to do so? >> you lock him in a room, you try to pound it out of him. if you can't, it's ultimately his decision. it becomes a one-witness trial at that point, god's greatest gi
>> i would say no but after seeing him call trayvon martin's mother and asking him if trayvon martin was responsible for his own death and now calling tracy martin, i don't know what to expect. i think it's possible now. >> rather, it's zimmerman's decision, not o'mara's. >> i'm sure that o'mara will have a huge influence on george zimmerman but, martin, go ahead. >> that was the point i was going to make. we already know that george zimmerman wants to speak out. he went...
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i love uh-uh forever, trayvon. in the name of jesus. >> obviously, we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad that the jury saw it that way. >> reporter: up until last night, zimmerman, although out on bond, had a 10:00 pm curfew. after the not guilty verdict was announced at approximately 10:00 pm last night, he was free to go home with his family. his lawyer said security is a concern and although he didn't indicate what his clients immediate plans were, he suggested zimmerman would likely take some time off with his family, relax and work on getting their lives back to normal. now as for the six jurors in this trial, a court order remains in effect, protecting their identities. a judge will later decide how long they'll remain anonymous. in the meantime, jurors have not responded to requests from multiple media organizations, seeking comment in the wake of this emotionally charged trial. chris? >> jonathan serrie reporting l
i love uh-uh forever, trayvon. in the name of jesus. >> obviously, we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad that the jury saw it that way. >> reporter: up until last night, zimmerman, although out on bond, had a 10:00 pm curfew. after the not guilty verdict was announced at approximately 10:00 pm last night, he was free to go home with his family. his lawyer said security is a concern and...
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that's what he did with trayvon martin. that may be in his mind what's accurate, but i don't think that's what everyone else wants to hear right now. >> that brings us to this stand your ground that we heard so much about over the last 15 months, which is what everyone thought the case was going to be about. barely got a mention in the case. >> the case turned into self-defense. originally, george zimmerman wasn't arrested because of stand your ground. we talked about these laws and how bad they are because they really do encourage people to kill or make that ultimate decision to take someone aisles life. we don't need laws that encourage people to kill. we need laws that encourage people to count to ten, take a step back. relax, think. reflect. >> why go with self-defense? >> that was a strategic move right before the hearing in the trial because they did not want to put george zimmerman on the witness stand and be cross-examined before the trial if they did that, he would have had to testify at a hearing and then if they
that's what he did with trayvon martin. that may be in his mind what's accurate, but i don't think that's what everyone else wants to hear right now. >> that brings us to this stand your ground that we heard so much about over the last 15 months, which is what everyone thought the case was going to be about. barely got a mention in the case. >> the case turned into self-defense. originally, george zimmerman wasn't arrested because of stand your ground. we talked about these laws and...